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Post by Tsukiyumi on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:27 pm

One of my favorite bands of all time; they incorporate elements of jazz and lounge into progressive metal with smooth clarity. They're an Aussie descendant of Mr. Bungle, TOOL and Korn musically, incorporating the disparate elements in a very effective manner. I adore this band for their style and musical ability, and hope they see the success they deserve in the future.


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Post by mikey on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:07 pm

I always felt that the fusion was as gimmicky as it was artistic; but I don't think that they're nearly bad enough to warrant calling them a stylistic descendant of Korn. Cats fucking aren't bad enough to listen to call them that.
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Post by Tsukiyumi on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:19 pm

I meant the usage of 7-string drop tuned guitars, and heavy bass riffs, as far as their similarity to Korn. That's where that similarity ends, really. I suppose it's a matter of taste, really. Don't you like Bruce Springsteen?

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Post by mikey on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Of course I do. I'd be in violation of state law if I didn't. Wink Yes, obviously any discussion of music is a matter of taste; I happen to be one of the few of my friends who appreciates Kim Thayil's exhaustive variety of alternative tunings, rather than considering them tiresome to listen to, and interestingly while I consider him refreshing and edgy I can't help but consider Korn hackneyed and 'Ninja hammy rather than groundbreaking. I couldn't honestly tell you why, but there it is nonetheless.
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Post by Tsukiyumi on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:45 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not much of a fan of Korn either.

Here's a good example of what we're discussing:

The Rolling Stones: I think they're weak and tiresome, especially compared to contemporary bands like Led Zepplin or The Doors.

Bob Dylan: Mumbly AND weak, there's a great combo.

Springsteen: 'Merica! Apple pie! Blue jean commercial! 'Nuff said.

The Beatles: The most overrated band in the history of music, IMO. I'm struggling to think of a single song I like by them.

And it goes on; I can't stand C&W music, for example, and I've lived in Texas for 23 years.

Definitely agreed about Kim Thayil, though; Soundgarden remains one of my top ten favorite bands ever, recent disappointing album aside.

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Post by mikey on Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:46 pm

I could play devil's advocate to each of those with chapter and verse, just to be oppositional. I will say, though, that by your comment on The Boss it seems that you've not heard the most pathos-laden or lyrical of his songs, and are rather basing your opinion on endless repetitions of "Born to Run" and "Rosalita."

As far as C&W, I tend to agree except for the simple fact of... Cash. EOS.
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Post by Tsukiyumi on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:50 am

Does he count as C&W? I'm not sure where I'd categorize him. Johnny Cash is... Johnny Cash.

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Post by mikey on Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:50 pm

IDK. I probably wouldn't call The Reverend Horton Heat "country," but I'm sure that there are folks who would. Uneducated, mouth-breathing, knuckleheaded folks, but folks nonetheless.
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Post by Tsukiyumi on Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:36 pm

They're Rockabilly, aren't they?

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Post by mikey on Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:23 pm

Some might say so, other might say punk, punkabilly, sometimes even blues rock. I say they're three dudes from Deer Park with a Gretsch hollow-body, an upright bass with a flame job, and a bare-ass drum kit.
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